Sorry I have not really noticed this thread, but it sure would seem to be some required reading for someone who is going out into ANY backcountry whatsoever...

we teach our boy scouts to do this stuff... how to survive a night out in cold wet environments... heck in Oregon, that is what the boys go camping in half the year.. Cold and wet? Oregon supplies a LOT of opportunity for that...

Spent a short 18 months on search and Rescue also...classes going on every Saturday on something...and usually opened to the public, with few attending...

but it does amaze me how little most people know...

for anyone that remembers that Kim Case locally.. the Korean guy who died from exposure up here, after getting his car stuck on a closed forest service road, trying to take a short cut across the mountains...after passing 50 signs saying the road was not maintained in winter... but typical, thought his SAAB would go thru anything since it was from Sweden and front wheel drive...

if the guy would have just walked out on the same road he drove in on, it would have taken him 4 or 5 hours to get help...at most..but not even having that much common sense, ended up killing him...


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