Originally Posted by tdoyka
lets see, i am retired enlisted US Army Engineer (12B and 51B) and then i went into heavy construction. i am an Independant, i used to be a Republican but after the Party announced that they would go to John McCain side, i gave up and went Independant. i am a right leaning Constitutional Republic adherent. i voted for Pres Trump twice. i am NOT a member of the NRA, but i am member of GOA.

i'd rather spend every year 5.6% of the US military budget to arm Ukraine and degrade the authoritarian Russia.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/aid-to-ukraine-is-a-fraction-of-the-u-s-defense-budget/

i don't care who gets into power, either Demoncrap or Republican, they will still support and arm Ukraine.

the fallacy of fighting NATO is quite laughable. WE (being US and NATO) are not involved. the Russian propagandists are just plain wrong. i'd give the US about a week of ground war to push the Russkie Army out of Ukraine and another week to take Moscow. hell, i'll even take the US out of the equation and let the NATO Europeans do it.

we are not giving Ukraine the latest technology, we are giving them stuff that we made in 1990s and by the battle reports, the stuff stopped the Russkies and their "big technical edge". i don't remember any Armata or SU-57 out there. T90, 80, 72, 64 and 55 tho, well they blow up quite nicely. turret toss should be Russkie game. hell, they could win gold medals in the Olympics. don't believe me? photo and videographic can tell you.

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html
Russia - 10232, of which: destroyed: 6705, damaged: 329, abandoned: 391, captured: 2807
Tanks (1947, of which destroyed: 1193, damaged: 104, abandoned: 107, captured: 543)

and don't forget Ukrainian
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html
Ukraine - 3329, of which: destroyed: 2155, damaged: 198, abandoned: 93, captured: 882
Tanks (496, of which destroyed: 308, damaged: 29, abandoned: 20, captured: 139)

oh and that big cloud of black smoke somewhere in Ukraine was an oil storage, not military weapons storage. white smoke means weapons storage, while black smoke means oil storage. look it up if you don't believe me.
Nice post.
There are some real nutcases in this thread, but it's the Internet and nutcases with keyboards can run wild.

It is amazing that after all these years countering Russia and otherwise containing Russian expansion, we see now that they are militarily weak.
The war does needs to end, but I don't see it ending any time soon.


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