...Yeah, you're wrong. Yeager? That's your hero? You GOT to be kidding. The Iraq contractor coward on Route Irish? You've just proven my point, regarding "experts". Pick carefully.
Apparantly I typed quicker than the comprehension took place-----I meant Yeager in the same, but greater, ridicule that's being heaped on Ayoob…….we agree that he's a joke (that was my point)
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As far as being taught by Cooper...Scotty Reitz, Larry Mudgett and John Helms were ALREADY decorated LA city cops when they attended Gunsite and used what Cooper had to offer. Cooper in turn used their experiences as SWAT cops….
Watch, "A Man in Full" (or something like that) and you'll hear Scotty crediting Cooper, not vice versa…..if street creds were the significant issue, why would they go there in the first place.
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Yeah, you're definitely wrong. But that's OK…..
I'm not a Ayoob groupee, neither will I discount someone just because they're weird……..by your standards of criteria, the pinnacle of defensive hand gunning should be the speed rock and FBI crouch…..that worked on the street for Hamer, Bryce and all those guys…..they certainly knew more based on actual street experience than Cooper or Chapman……
….but then, I guess I'm wrong……..logic doesn't always work I guess….
Yeah, logic would work fine, if you read my post and didn't ignore what I said to push home your non-issue. Read what I posted about SWAT dudes training at Gunsite. And being used as trainers in-turn by Cooper. Good trainers exchange "data". I also know the reverence that Reitz and the others I mentioned have for Cooper (LAPD NOV '84 recruit class was taught the Cooper "modern technique" by Helms & Mudgett).
I love to argue, but you need to do MUCHO better. You lost the argument when you mentioned that goofball Yeager. I only said to pick your expert wisely. Too easy, if you want to learn properly. There's way too many REALLY good, experienced people out there that have something to offer than to pick wanna-bees and self-promoters. Don't know where you got the FBI speed rock and crouch thing...never mentioned. It's an old technique. Sometimes it still works. But old TIMERS do have some relevance. I'll listen to Bill Allard any day over an Ayoob character. And that's the point, Mr gmoats. Pick your expert wisely. If you wanna argue some more, PM me; we can talk instructors and experience; love to hear about yours. Bob
