Originally Posted by prm
I’ve tried hard to beat factory 140 ELD-Ms. Not an easy task.

My old Ruger shot them like this repeatedly.

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Factory 130 Bergers are about the same.

Yep,

The poster complaining about how sorry factory ammo is, hasn't shot factory Creed ammo.

I can beat it with select handloads, but like you said, beating factory stuff isn't all that easy.

I do want to try the 147 ELD-M, 130, 135 and 140 Bergers. In fact, my Creed was throated for VLD's, I have to bump factory stuff back a tad. VLD's loaded to mag length will just about kiss the lands. That's a bit shorter than factory, but seems to work OK. I wouldn't have set it up like that if I was going to stick with factory ammo.

DF