John, I feel yo pain.

I, too, have had some concern over being able to load ammo that shoots better than off the shelf factory stuff. I did achieve that, but it took some effort and with only select loads, not across the board.

Ii don't know of any other round where I can't easily better factory fodder with reloads. Not so with the Creed.

Pretty amazing. Home run, team Hornady.

DF