Need to look up Jack O'Conners quote about gun & cartridge debates getting so heated the proponents are ready to use said caliber on each other. He might of mentioned these discussions being fueled by generous amounts of stump water too.

This old guy is sticking with the Swede for now, but I am eyeing my 243s as potential Creedes in the future. Mine will probably be a 22 & a 6 Screed as the 25-06 and 6.5x55 overlap the creed albeit in long actions.

Note how many Ford,Chevy,Dodge guys are driving Toyotas now. Things change.

Thanks DF

"When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred." Niccolo Machiavelli