I finally realized why qwk's Campfire "name" was so memorable. One a thread a year or two ago he claimed to have fired .1" (that's 1/10th of an inch) 5-shot groups at 100 yards with an unaltered Kimber and handloads put together with standard RCBS expander-ball dies.
No BS, it happened. The gun was allowed to cool between shots. I like to experiment, with my own money, and have no bias. The majority of your posts I agree with, but for some reason you are biased in favor of the creed. I get your points about mag length, and twist, but the creeds success is marketing hype only. Using a gun with the same twist and a matched mag length, the other two calibers have an edge on it, especially the 260, as good older 308 brass is everywhere(the newer non lapua brass sucks).
