I found this forum while trying to gather info on Optics and Ammo after being scammed by the owner for about $500. Had the identical threats of lawsuits mentioned by others after asking for a full refund on a discontinued product listed as "in stock" on the website. Have started the claims process with the cc company, and will be contacting Houston law enforcement in the morning. Misery loves company, so it's good to see I'm not the only one.