Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by JoeBob
I don't really believe in the stories of the people who claim to have been and returned to either heaven or hell. There really isn't any Biblical precedent for it. In fact, it is told us that there is a "great gulf" between people there and us. I do however, believe in deception and beings who are trying to deceive us. We don't/can't always understand their intentions but the Bible is clear they exist.
As has been explained, the gulf you speak of was between hell and heaven, not between the living world and heaven.


Perhaps, but there is still no Biblical precedent for it. I don't really need people going to either to convince me they are real places and as was told in the same story where the aforesaid "gulf" was discussed, people have the prophets and the scriptures. If they don't believe them, stories of miraculous returns from heaven or hell will not make a lasting and changing impression.