Originally Posted by Armednfree

Is that the reason for the strange shape of the 8 × 51 R Lebel? Introduced in 1886.


I don't know for sure, but I doubt it. That's not a good looking shoulder from an efficiency perspective. I've heard it had to do with their weird scheme for getting spire points to tilt so they would work in a tube magazine, but I've never seen a coherent explanation of that either.

Last edited by Llama_Bob; 06/22/17.