One last set of QuickLOAD simulations. This time barrel length is shortened from 24" to 22", which is what my rifles have. Case fill ratio is again limited to 100% to eliminate compressed loads. All other inputs are also as before, .308 Win @ SAMMI 62KPSI and .30-06 at SAAMI 60KPSI and .30-06 +P at 62KPSI.

Again I stopped listing data at 2600fps for the .308 Win and 1700fps for both .30-06 simulations.

The .308 Win maxes out at 2653fps while the .30-06 hits 2831fps at SAAMI and 2836 at +P pressures.


For myself, I'll stick with BL-C(2), Varget and CFE223 for the .308 Win and H4350 for the .30-06. No need to change a good thing.



Code

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.308 Win, 62KPSI =====================================================================

Cartridge          : .308 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 180, Nosler BalTip 39583
Useable Case Capaci: 45.762 grain H2O = 2.971 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 100 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hodgdon BL-C2                       98.3     45.2     2.93    2653    99.9    62000    8146   1.103  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2520                       98.5     43.8     2.84    2627   100.0    62000    7608   1.115  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex D073.6                       100.0     43.5     2.82    2607   100.0    60334    7587   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                      100.0     41.3     2.67    2606   100.0    61506    7287   1.141  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 7                    98.9     44.8     2.90    2602    98.0    62000    7927   1.113  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!



====================================================================================
.30-06, 60KPSI =====================================================================
Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 180, Nosler BalTip 39583
Useable Case Capaci: 59.087 grain H2O = 3.836 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 100 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

5 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ReloadSwiss RS 60                  100.0     57.1     3.70    2831   100.0    59207   10655   1.088  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  99.5     56.8     3.68    2822   100.0    60000   10611   1.087  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Elcho 17                            99.5     56.8     3.68    2822   100.0    60000   10611   1.087  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414                        98.4     56.7     3.67    2772    98.1    60000   10712   1.101  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760                      98.4     56.7     3.67    2772    98.1    60000   10712   1.101  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 511                100.0     58.0     3.76    2757    98.6    58235   10698   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                    100.0     55.7     3.61    2746    99.5    58695   10460   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 52                   94.3     53.1     3.44    2746   100.0    60000    9738   1.110  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4895                            93.2     50.8     3.29    2736   100.0    60000    9905   1.114  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA11                        94.0     51.2     3.32    2727    99.9    60000    9866   1.114  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP11 ~approximation          94.0     51.2     3.32    2727    99.9    60000    9866   1.114  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-15                  94.0     51.2     3.32    2727    99.9    60000    9866   1.114  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203B                          94.5     51.5     3.34    2726   100.0    60000    9794   1.115  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203 old                       96.0     52.9     3.43    2720   100.0    60000    9651   1.126  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP3                          96.0     52.9     3.43    2720   100.0    60000    9651   1.126  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H380                        95.4     53.1     3.44    2717    99.5    60000    9962   1.118  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R903                       98.2     52.9     3.43    2714   100.0    60000    9575   1.126  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S355                        98.1     52.3     3.39    2708   100.0    60000    9570   1.122  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  100.0     57.1     3.70    2704    99.0    53802   10496   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data      94.9     53.4     3.46    2702    99.5    60000    9702   1.115  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!



====================================================================================
.30-06, 62KPSI =====================================================================
Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 180, Nosler BalTip 39583
Useable Case Capaci: 59.087 grain H2O = 3.836 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 100 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

4 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Elcho 17                           100.0     57.1     3.70    2836   100.0    61126   10632   1.078  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-17                 100.0     57.1     3.70    2836   100.0    61126   10632   1.078  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 60                  100.0     57.1     3.70    2831   100.0    59207   10655   1.088  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      99.3     57.2     3.71    2800    98.4    62000   10791   1.085  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414                        99.3     57.2     3.71    2800    98.4    62000   10791   1.085  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 52                   95.3     53.6     3.47    2771   100.0    62000    9784   1.094  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4895                            94.3     51.4     3.33    2762   100.0    62000    9959   1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 511                100.0     58.0     3.76    2757    98.6    58235   10698   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation          95.1     51.8     3.36    2754   100.0    62000    9925   1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-15                  95.1     51.8     3.36    2754   100.0    62000    9925   1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA11                        95.1     51.8     3.36    2754   100.0    62000    9925   1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203B                          95.6     52.0     3.37    2752   100.0    62000    9846   1.099  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550                    100.0     55.7     3.61    2746    99.5    58695   10460   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       97.0     53.4     3.46    2745   100.0    62000    9695   1.110  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP3                          97.0     53.4     3.46    2745   100.0    62000    9695   1.110  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H380                        96.4     53.6     3.48    2744    99.6    62000   10027   1.101  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R903                       99.2     53.4     3.46    2740   100.0    62000    9616   1.110  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S355                        99.2     52.8     3.42    2733   100.0    62000    9618   1.106  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data      95.9     54.0     3.50    2729    99.6    62000    9765   1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 50                   96.2     54.5     3.53    2725    98.7    62000    9918   1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 7                    90.9     53.1     3.44    2717    99.5    62000    9669   1.105  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4007 SSC                        98.0     54.1     3.51    2715    97.8    62000    9960   1.100  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex D073.6                        92.0     51.6     3.34    2714   100.0    62000    9090   1.114  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4064                       96.7     51.5     3.34    2711   100.0    62000    9083   1.131  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  100.0     57.1     3.70    2704    99.0    53802   10496   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201                           93.1     49.6     3.22    2700   100.0    62000    9177   1.111  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!




Coyote Hunter - NRA Patriot Life, NRA Whittington Center Life, GOA, DAD - and I VOTE!

No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.

A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.