I have no dog in this fight.
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<br>However,I don't recall a flood of "Short Range Guys" saying they can kill with 100% certainty at 1500yds. Actually,never heard a word muttered in that regard,or anything that could be remotely perceived in conjunction with that notion.
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<br>I'd simply like to witness results by anyone,at 1500yds,on a lifesized anatomically correct target regarding a first poke or a string of succesive shots in the vitals. That intrigues me. I'm neither rooting for,nor against,but am simply curious.
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<br>That was my take,on the crux of the debacle. I don't find any of that ridiculous,though much of it is very interesting....................

Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."