Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Bible prophecieS fulfilled concerning Israel.

http://www.trackingbibleprophecy.org/israel.php


Again,

Pick the one you consider the strongest, and let's discuss it.


AS,

The last time I discussed Bible prophecy with you concerned the prophecy against Tyre. You claimed it was not fulfilled. When I showed how it was indeed fulfilled you failed to admit that and then you came up with your own contorted view of what the scriptures said.

You simply would not admit you were wrong and then compounded your error with a clearly silly interpretation of the verses. Your pride will not allow you to see the truth.

If you get cornered, you will do the same thing. You will present YOUR OWN view of what the scriptures say and then judge all arguments to the contrary to be false. A recent clear example of this is when you declared Daniel to be written, let's see 160 to 200 or something AD. If you resort to weak arguments like this, you will never see any truth as your bias has blinded you. With a simple sweep of the hand, you declare all the prophecy in Daniel to be false. Kinda like debating a recalcitrant four year old who has no command of the subject being discussed.

Further, you seem to have no knowledge of your own and resort to a quick internet search of atheistic sites. I doubt you have any scholarly base of your own.

However, let's play.

In the prophecy you reference, explicitly states that Nebuchadnezzar would completely sack and destroy the city of Tyre and that Tyre's land would never be built upon again. However, this never occurred. After a 13-year siege, Tyre compromised with Nebuchadnezzar and accepted his authority without being destroyed. Despite being conquered and razed by Alexander the Great 240 years later, Tyre still exists.

This alleged prophecy is just factually wrong.



AS,

You are totally incorrect and false in your statement.

This is what you say: "....explicitly states that Nebuchadnezzar would completely sack and destroy the city of Tyre ...."

You have either never read Ezekiel 26 or you have a serious reading comprehension problem. Perhaps both.

Note that the verses are very clear about what NEB would do and what God or "I" will do. AS has either never read the verse or is just simply parroting something from some website of dubious standing.

You are misinterpreting the text. There are TWO actors moving against Tyre. One is Nebuchadnezzar. The other is God. Neb took his action and then God took his. You are incorrect when you say that Neb was to be the actor to completely destroy Tyre. The verses do not say that. But you take it the way you want and erect a false straw man to knock down.

Tyre was destroyed and you will not admit it.


I will help you out here. Note that the text says God will bring "many nations" against Tyre. Neb was brought against the city and then later "I" brought Alexander to complete the destruction of Tyre.

The prophecy stands. AS fails.


TF, that's pretty weak. You would thing the all knowing creator of the Universe could at least give a clear prophecy. In order to be a true prophecy it must be clear, unambiguous, and only fulfillable at a single occurrence.

If I was to predict the U.S would fall, sometime in the future, and at the hand of some other nation, and a thousand years from now the U.S fell to a foreign power, is that really a prophecy? Of course not.

The only attacker Ezekial mentions by name is Nebuchadnezzar. No where in the prophecy does it mention Alexander. Now if it did mention a Macedonia named Alexander 400 years before he was born as the destroyer of Tyre, then you might have something you could claim as prophecy, but for some reason the name Alexander escaped the prophet of the all knowing creator of the Universe.

If this was a real prophecy resulting from foresight, you wouldn't be hanging your argument on weasel words, but the plain meaning of the works on the paper.





You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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