Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by DBT
Western civilization began long before Christianity.
And...? Regardless...are you denying the positive impact of Christianity upon Western Civilization...?



The church went a long way in ushering in the dark ages, suppressing progress. And yeah, I know the Irish Monks did their bit in preserving manuscripts from the classical era, but that's not the point. Rather than the church hierarchy or christian doctrine that brought on the enlightenment, it was the inquiring minds of gifted thinkers who thought outside of the teachings of the church.


Your prejudice is amazing. The Creationists Christians are the ones who brought us out of the dark ages. Stop reading atheist's propaganda, man.

The point was, that rather than it being religious thinking that brought on the enlightenment, it was free thought and rationalism that brought progress, enlightened minds.

Newton, at al, were theists because belief in a higher power was a part of their culture, but it was their inquiring minds that made discoveries outside of the box of religious faith, not because of it.....as I already said, which was apparently misconstrued.

Progress was made not because of religious belief, but in spite of it...think of the trouble Darwin had with evolution in a time when special creation was taken as gospel.

This is history.


Newton wrote more about the Bible than he did about science. All the greats were Christians first and then scientists trying to think God's thoughts after him. That's why they made so many discoveries. Today scientists copy nature to improve things. Things don't make themselves.


"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation."
Everyday Hunter