Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by CCCC
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by CCCC
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
"How do you respond to a position such as this:-"God is not interested in the futile human process and search for evidence about God, and not interested in what evidence humans do or do not find."It sounds like religious followers trying to shut down debate and discourage people from asking questions they can't answer. In doing so, they are claiming to know his mind, and speak for the alleged god. In order for a god to care, it must first exist, so unless the followers can produce sufficient evidence for their alleged god, why should anyone care about their self serving claims?
Well, good that you finally responded in that it can be helpful to understand what that condition "sounds like" to a person of your position - how a person like you thinks. It is telling that you immediately ascribe that very viable concept to a conscious negative agenda on the part of '"religious followers" - acting as if you know what those followers are thinking, claiming and trying to do - where you have absolutely no evidence of that - zero evidence. And, this by the guy/gal who preaches the alleged sacredness of evidence as the basis for "knowing". Is this glaring inconsistency a hallmark of your logic system?. Some would call this a "laffin" moment if it were not so sad. Since you act as if you can read minds (and maybe souls) over the internet, why not state your guess on what "religious followers" are thinking about your behavior there? I would guess that God is not interested in or concerned with such feeble human behaviors.
The whole premise of your argument is that no one is allowed to question your presupposition that your god exists, because he doesn't' want us to. It's a sophisticated version of "shut the phhuck up, theist don't care about your logic'. As such, it demonstrates the desperate nature of your argument.
Indeed. you exhibit a sad case. You are still trying to pretend that you can dictate the thoughts and intent of another person in order to create some straw man against which you might argue. You attempt to tell someone else what they are trying to do and why, yet you do this without a shred of the precious "evidence" that is so key to your positioning. That is lame, and your description of my alleged "premise" is dead wrong. I have and make no argument here and you cannot identify any such argument. My purpose has been to ask cogent questions and to expose your posturing. Furthermore, you now have stooped to posting base vulgarity. Is this frankness frustrating?
CCCC, Let's convert your argument into the form of a syllogism. Premise one: God exists.Premise two: God is not interested in the futile human process and search for evidence about God, and not interested in what evidence humans do or do not find.Conclusion: Therefore, humans should not apply the principles of reason and logic to Christian God claims and just accept that The Christian God exists. This is your argument. At best, it's a completely illogical circular argument, at worst, it's exactly what I called it. A dishonest attempt by Christians to prevent the asking of questions they cannot answer.
AS - let's not, because it would be dumb to waste more time and effort on your phony game. You assume and try to state "my argument" even though I HAVE MADE NO ARGUMENT - for you need to stage an argument of your liking (a straw man) so that you can work your methods. No argument -I merely stated a condition and asked your response - thinking that you might try to reply based on "evidence" - your stated coin of the realm for your position and beliefs. Nope - no evidence came back from "Mr. Evidence" - just merely your own assumptions and assignations about "religious followers with no evidence to support your assertions about them. You are exposed. You abandoned your base. There is no point in one trying to have an honest discussion with a pretender. I don't know what or if God thinks about human efforts to prove or disprove His existence, and my ignorance of that does not bother me. Phonies trying to game others regarding God are not even entertaining, and certainly not worth my simple human time. Done here.


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