Ed I know intuitively there has to be a difference offered by those bigger cartridges and bullets but when the ballistics are so closely lumped together among comparable cartridges, it can be hard to tell sometimes from the terminal effect on the animals.

I guess if we shot enough of them with enough bullets we might see a pattern emerge for stuff 30 and up. I have noticed that(for example) that 30 caliber bullets from magnum cases is right where there's more damage (trauma?) to animals than from smaller calibers...at least that's what my eyeballs showed me. From there the next step seems to be 375.

Elk are funny....phlegmatic,sort of, in their ability to take a hit giving no indication...then keel over dead. I can dig why some people use bigger stuff.




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.