The problem with these ridiculous cartridge comparison threads is every one wants to focus on their own subjective requirements instead of trying to be the least bit objective about it.

You know the drill..."kicks too much for me"....."rifle is too light (too heavy) for me"...."fine for some folks not for me"...."I can't shoot it so neither can anyone else"...blah blah blah

Horseshidt....you got issues, that's your problem. Doesn't apply to anyone else and has nothing to do with the capability of the user. Surprise surprise but in the objective scheme of things....guess what?

You don't matter to anyone but yourself when it comes to evaluating a cartridge. You abilities (or lack thereof) have nothing to do with the cartridge's performance. laugh

YOU are the monkey wrench in the gear works.....not the cartridge.


I've used the 300 Weatherby, Winchester, and H&H magnum for hunting,hand loaded all three extensively. Far as I am concerned there's not a dimes worth of difference and they are as alike as three babies under a blanket. whistle




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.