I have to laugh that the measure of a cartridge seems to be how big of a bull you think it will kill... I'm pretty sure anything I listed above and many more will kill any bull walking and then some.

And somehow now it's a contest of who knows who? If you have the money a guide will get you close enough to any size bull you want so the cartridge is a secondary consideration IMO... big bulls go down just like any other bulls if you punch a hole in the right place... if you think otherwise I'm thinking you haven't been hitting them in the right place....

I swear, this isn't a hunting site any more- it has officially become a penis measuring contest.... I guess you guys win because I just don't really give a crap....

Bob

Never underestimate your ability to overestimate your ability.