As another member pointed out to me in a PM, there's an interesting dynamic going on here.

Lots of folks here believe that the State will eventually push decent folks far enough that violence will become the only viable option, and it's one of the reasons many of us have as many guns as we do.

However, that being said, there does seem to be a surprisingly strong knee-jerk reflex around here to squirt instant sympathy for any State figure or entity that can be successfully portrayed by the State's intellectuals as a victim.

I wonder how those two attitudes will play out when the time comes.

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain--that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." --Lysander Spooner, 1867