Is there a reason why mom and “new guy” are outside?? If they didn’t have the kids, and didn’t want him there, THEY should have stayed inside, and asked him to leave, followed by a call to the cops. WHY go outside with him?? It’s ONE thing if he was trying to get in the house, but WHY go outside, to escalate the argument??

This is a tough one, but again, a guy shouting on your porch doesn’t quite rise to the level of going OUTSIDE with him, and adding a gun to the equation. You HAD a “physical barrier” between yourself and him, he WASN’T a threat to you or stealing property UNTIL you opened the door and went out there and escalated the argument FURTHER.

If a drunk homeless guy is on your porch (but NOT busting through the front door), should you go out there with a gun, or do you stay inside/tell him to leave/call cops??

(At least before he was told to leave) did Dad have a legal right to get his kids there at 315??? If they weren’t there, why wasn’t he told earlier (phone) or through the door??

Dad was stupid for not leaving, but the same could be said of Arbery, and look where those defendants who shot him are going....