Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Originally Posted by AJ300MAG
Originally Posted by fburgtx
“Don't see it that way he was asked to leave and did not. When boyfriend came onto the porch he got more aggressive.

Apparently not as cut and dried as you think, shooter hasn't been arrested or charged”




Nothing about this will be “cut and dried”. The questions will be:

1) Did boyfriend have right to introduce a gun (it wasn’t already in his hands/on his person)and bring it outside, for “trespassing”???

2) Did boyfriend have a legitimate reason to think ex-wife feared for her life or was about to get beaten, out there??

Trespassing is not a justification of legitimate use of deadly force.

Wife didn’t look that scared.

Watch first 5 seconds. Dad arguing with boyfriend. Then, boyfriend goes inside (not prevented by Dad) then COMES BACK OUTSIDE with gun he has retrieved.

Boyfriend was already in his “castle” (indoors), and took it upon himself to go outside to confront Dad about trespassing. Does the DOOR mark the line between “castle defense” and “escalation”??

We’ll see...

You're assuming that "castle" means inside the house...


Well, boyfriend had to go INSIDE, through a door WITH A LOCK, to retrieve his gun, then came back out, through the same door.

If a drunk is beating on your door at night, in an easily accessible residential neighborhood, do you open the door, go OUTSIDE, and shoot him??

I’m not trying to make a point, I’m asking??


If anyone is beating on my door and I tell them to get off my property my response is going to be go outside and remove him from my property if they don't voluntarily leave. In your mind I am supposed to do it with my hands? I am no longer in top physical condition regularly working out so I am going to do it by pointing a weapon at the individual. If he lunges at me and tries to take my 1911 in your mind I am supposed to let him grab it and fight him for it? No I am going to shoot him.

"Well, boyfriend had to go INSIDE, through a door WITH A LOCK, to retrieve his gun, then came back out, through the same door". What difference does that make? The man armed himself against an intruder.

I doubt this will be sent to court after the Grand Jury looks at it.


You might want to keep a good lawyer on retainer then. This is the 1800's anymore.