Originally Posted by bellydeep
I don’t know how any person could honestly tell themselves Russia is “winning” this war.

Attempt to take Kiev - failed. And bigly, a la the stranded convoy.

Now we’re how many days in on this thing - do you really this is going how Putin thought it would turn out??? Sanctions, a slow, creeping front, and all for the globe to watch????

20 years in Iraq ( two invasions) and Afghanistan and the US and NATO still lost. 15 years in Vietnam and the US and NATO lost.