Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by bellydeep
I don’t know how any person could honestly tell themselves Russia is “winning” this war.

Attempt to take Kiev - failed. And bigly, a la the stranded convoy.

Now we’re how many days in on this thing - do you really this is going how Putin thought it would turn out??? Sanctions, a slow, creeping front, and all for the globe to watch????

20 years in Iraq ( two invasions) and Afghanistan and the US and NATO still lost. 15 years in Vietnam and the US and NATO lost.
I hope Russia can still pull this off and neutralize Ukraine. If NATO and Russia end up toe to toe at the (former) eastern Ukraine border it will eventually (soon) end in disaster. The new world order folks are itching to take down Russia and control its wealth. Otherwise having a resource rich nation with basically no debt to the central banks thwarts their world domination scheme that is nearly complete. If they endanger the whole world with a nuclear exchange and the resulting depopulation so much the better for them. They are pushing for a Russian revolution to bring Russia into their sphere.

I think that’s a logical take as well Hastings.