To be frank, with my 338-378, or my M1A and FN SPR 308's, I could reliably take deer at 1000 yds. That is if I thought of them as targets. I dont. I approximate that I have an 80% or 90% chance of killing a deer with a single shot at that range, but, as Mr Howell says "Good enough isnt". If I am hunting deer, its for meat. Punching paper is different and I do pleanty of that. There is nothing illegal or inherintly immoral about it, but I think that it might be unwise or irresponsible. Either way, I dont have anything against someone who hunts at that range as long as they can prove their abilities to me, but I would never teach or allow my children to shoot like that.