Originally Posted by jorgeI
"Dudes" you mean like the owner of the site with more that 200 buffalo to his credit, or do you mean the myriad PHs who post there? Are there "dudes" ( I guess I'm one of those) who post there? of course. Here's a picture of a recovered Partition (on the right) having lost it's front core (yes, from a dead buffalo). A Frame won't do that, it's an "improved" Partition.

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And here's the link to the thread from hell. Plenty of dead animal and tissue analysis by vets as well.
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That bullet is about as good as it gets performance wise. The Swift Aframe is an improvement that isn't. It succeeds only in having less penetration and less abrupt killing. And I have used them. I in fact just sold off my last stock of them on the classifieds here.