Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter
Originally Posted by bellydeep

Yep here we go again throwing stuff into the mixer that has NOTHING to do with how a given round works on game.

Since we can't win the argument on merit, let's start talking about something else.

Since you can't buy Federal Fusions in 300 Bee factory loads, I hereby declare it sucks as an elk round.

Argument over.


The OP used various criteria to support his claim that the .300WBY is the "best" cartridge for elk. NONE of them reflect directly on how the cartridge works on game.

"Flat trajectory". So does my .22-250. Nothing directly to do with effect on game.

"Massive downrange energy". So do a lot of other cartridges. Nothing directly to do with effect on game.

"Sub MOA accuracy from many rifle and handload combos". No different than a lot of other cartridges. Nothing directly to do with effect on game.

"High but manageable recoil in most rifle weights". Very subjective (i,.e, not so for all people). Nothing directly to do with effect on game.

"Almost unlimited bullet selection". True for handloads, much less so than other cartridges for factory loads. Nothing directly to do with effect on game.

"Widely universal availability of factory ammo". Much less so than for many other cartridges. Nothing directly to do with effect on game.

"If you were on a trophy hunt for big bulls, could you really come up with a better choice?" Yes. Nothing directly to do with effect on game.

"For myself, the next bull will fall to another TSX, 165 or 180 gr, with extreme confidence." Not the bullet I would choose with any cartridge. While confidence in your choice of bullet is good, that bullet can be used in many other cartridges. Nothing directly to do with effect on game.

"Why undergun yourself with lesser armament..." Another very subjective statement. If a .300WM isn't sufficient I wouldn't choose a .300WBY in its place. Nothing directly to do with effect on game.

"...or overrun yourself with higher recoil?" Yet another very subjective statement. Many people would consider themselves "overrun" by .300WBY recoil. Nothing directly to do with effect on game.


"If Roy himself were around today, I'm guessing he would endorse his 300 as perfection on elk." Perhaps, but I couldn't care less what Roy might think. Nothing directly to do with effect on game.



The fact is that qualitative assessments like good/better/best are made using specific criteria. Each individual has to decide what is right for themselves and in doing so each individual will use criteria they chose based on their own unique situation.

If there was general consensus that the .300WBY was the best elk cartridge I would have seen a lot more .300WBY rifles in the field in the 34 years I've been elk hunting. The vast majority of hunters vote with their wallet and choose something else as "best" for their situation. If .300WBY rifles represent 5% of the rifles used for elk hunting I would be surprised.


What is your objective here? It sure seems like you are trying to join the ranks of the trolls.


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