Originally Posted by IndyCA35
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
Originally Posted by rem141r
just because its legal, that doesn't make it right. if that guy knew he wanted a range, he should have bought more rural. he's a self-centered dickhead.


and ain't no way he's doing a 50 foot embankment. it would need a huge amount of space to get it that high.



A 45 or 50 foot "fence" capable of stopping a .50 BMG, or a 30-06 FMJ, would have to be made from some pretty thick timbers. Several feet at least, and either overlapping or two fences with packed dirt in between. That would cost many hundreds of thousands of dollars. Ain't no way the perp is going to spring for that.

And where the heck do you even get timbers 50 feet tall? Oh, they have to be sunk into the ground? Gonna need some concrete.

Concrete block walls? Hate to tell ya but a 30-06 will knock a hole right through them.

Many years ago I read of an experiment where various ammo was fired through pine boards 3/4 inch thick. 30-06 ball penetrated 72 of them. Now solid oak is not the same as pine boards but you get the idea. When one of my clubs had ricochet problems--and we had bulldozed what we thought was a safe berm--the NRA told us how to do it. The resulting assessment was well into six figures (I forget exactly how much). The solution wasn't anywhere near 50 feet tall.

#earthembankment

#dumphuck


How do you make a 50 foot earth embankment where the ground is sand.

And don't swear at me. I'm not your wife.

The guy already has an embankment 20 feet (or nearly so) high at the end of his pit. He only needs to get another twenty feet above grade. The trajectory of any errant bullet passing 20 feet above grade will pass harmlessly over any nearby neighbors. And there exists means to prevent the muzzle being elevated to that point which are used at some ranges. I would desire such to protect the neighbors three to six miles away.

How would one build a twenty foot tall bullet proof wall?

Have any of you guys seen a timber retaining wall alongside a hiway? I have seen several locally. They use vertical I beam steel pylons to hold railroad tie sized timbers in a horizontal orientation, and stack said timbers as high as necessary.

Two such walls built ten or fifteen feet apart with the middle filled with sand would stop anything short of an 88 mm. The two walls would be tied together in a substantial manner and would support one another, negating need for substantial concrete work.

We are not talking about a bullet trap here. Simply a safety barrier which will presumably never see an impact. There is no concern for successive weakening due to repetitive impacts in the same spot. Nobody is going to "shoot through it".

But better yet. The guy already has a pit. Just build a roof over it and cover the roof with sand, or as I mentioned in an earlier post, bury a six foot diameter pipe. Instant underground 100 yd range.

Sock puppet? I do not think so.

I do not think any of our jokesters could successfully carry off an impersonation such as this. Too much drama queen irrationality and not enough IQ on display. It is usually pretty easy to spot a woman who is used to getting anything she wants from the men around her via her physical attributes. The real shame of it is, so many are proud of the ability and put it on display for the world to witness.


People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.