mauserand9mm, it seems normal here for you to make huge and sweeping claims about "fact", which immediately make your claims suspect. Yet, you claim such heavy dependence on evidence and proof, and pretend that all others should do that as you do.
This is your big opportunity to be convincing. So, please provide the hard evidence and proof that caused you to believe the truth of these, your utterances, as selected from your posts and noted below Hard evidence and proof now – not observations or opinions. You said this stuff – underlines to provide focus for hard facts.
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Everybody says that their god is the real god
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All other religions claim the same “proof” (with regard to the spirit of truth living in one’s faith)
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Faith choices are made without demonstrable evidence
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200 denominations of Christians reading from the same book (Bible)
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The bible is factually and historically wrong - - - alledged (sic) events - - - - there is zero evidence to support the fantastic events written down in it.
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there are thousands of gods to choose from - - - - - Many are jealous gods and will be upset if you choose a false god
Waiting here - just pop out those facts and proofs and all will be well.
Sure.
I don’t have a compendium of dismissing the religious bullshit but I’ll try and point you to some good sources of information.
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Everybody says that their god is the real god
Huh? Why would you have issue with this? Don’t you think people who believe in a god believe that their god is the real god? You must be on crack.
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All other religions claim the same “proof” (with regard to the spirit of truth living in one’s faith)
That onus is on your guys. Proof would be demonstrable and attributable to it’s proven source (eg god provided you with a soul and you need to feel him in your heart yada yada yada). Still waiting for the evidence.
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200 denominations of Christians reading from the same book (Bible)
Looks like I may have got this wrong – there are 200 Christian denominations in the US, and about 45,000 globally:
The bible is factually and historically wrong - - - alledged (sic) events - - - - there is zero evidence to support the fantastic events written down in it.
There’s a fuck-ton of useful information here for starters:
Bart used to be one of you guys before he saw the light, but that's only because he put in the hard yards and did proper research. There are many others who have also done so.
The fantastic events still go unsupported and unsubstantiated - you got any proof that you are withholding from us?
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there are thousands of gods to choose from - - - - - Many are jealous gods and will be upset if you choose a false god
You fail mauserand9mm - posted a bunch of someone else's claims and specious data, and proved nothing. Come up with your proofs, please.
Hey, I don't know it all. There are experts in their fields, under peer review, and researchers also subject to skeptic review. That's why I direct you to the their work. So does that mean you know it all on your side of the arguement, or is that just what you believe?
This is not an argument and, no, it does not mean that I know it all - impossible - and I hope never to behave as if I think I do. So, I make it a practice not to jump onto atheist threads (especially daily) and try to critique or undermine anything on which atheists base their beliefs/positions.
OTOH, you do so on a thread about Christianity and fling out these sweeping declarations, claiming also to be heavy duty evidence and proof based. However, when asked for your beloved and devoted evidence/truth, you provide practically none and almost exclusively refer your questioner to the opinions and writings of others. Apparently you are willing to accept their views without evidence or proof. Very strange. Seems like time to leave the maze.
You're just being defensive.
What's wrong with asking people why they have faith and drilling down on some of the finer points? Wouldn't they already have done that to convince themselves?
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However, when asked for your beloved and devoted evidence/truth, you provide practically none and almost exclusively refer your questioner to the opinions and writings of others. Apparently you are willing to accept their views without evidence or proof.
I have trust that their works are the best possible explanations possible because they are recognised experts in their fields and are subject to peer review by fellow experts. Like most people I have trust in many things in daily life because it's impossible to research and maintain a normal life, but it would be possible to do so. I trust my car won't simply fall apart on the road and I could research the design that was undertaken to produce the car, the inspection and testing procedures, the qualifications and training of the service personnel, the testing and verification of the spare parts used etc. There is evidence to be found if I went looking for it. There is none of this with faith.
I doubt that anyone would drive a vehicle assembled by talented chimpanzees and then prayed to god to establish road worthiness.
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Originally Posted by Raspy
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.
That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.
