Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by CCCC
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Looks like the theists have run out of steam. Antlers is in misdirection mode, CCCC is producing bafflegab and Raspy is patting them all on the backside and saying "good job".
Over and above the other of your failures, you are delusional if you believe what you posted.


Just remember that any premise beginning with "God made..." or "God created..." is invalid despite any evasive side arguments.

You should remember that any premise based upon the presumption of no God or beginning with “I don’t know why/what/how [blank] happened but God didn’t…..” is invalid despite your deflection and obvious confusion.

Just because you wrongly believe what you posted doesn’t mean it’s true. 😉
There is hope when someone will say "I don't know or I don't understand". If a Stephen Hawking tells you with a certainty that this universe began when all this matter collapsed into a particle smaller than an atom and created an explosion that turned loose all the matter and has sent it at incredible velocity out into space which in turn produced our finely tuned rhythmic rotating and orbiting universe and that is all there is to it. Well, there isn't any hope of bringing that person back to thinking there is a supernatural first cause.

There are unsubstantiated assertions in what you wrote and descriptions that go beyond our current best scientific understandings, but putting those aside, science doesn't claim to know everything and that drives the research and exploration - science doesn't know everything and is open to falsification. Supernatural comes from superstition and a falsehood of pretending to know the unknown ie the fuel of religions. Faith systems are a substitute for skepticism and critical thinking, and are against it for their self-preservation, and had thrived on unfalsifiability - unfortunately some had been way too specific about the accounts of some things that have since been falsified (the bible is a good example).

Seems the catholics are willing to update in order to try and maintain some sort of relevant presence in the changing world, but they seem to have a different christian god to others.


Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by Raspy
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.

That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

Well?