You guys can argue all you want about 7mm-08 vs. .308. Doesn't bother me any. My last couple of deer were taken with a 6.8 SPC AR. The 110 TSX load from Silver State Armory takes down deer far better than you would ever think it would. I'm kind of moving to smaller cartridges and liking it. My dad used to shoot mule deer in Wyoming with an old Remington Model 8 in .32 Remington. He took a lot of deer at over 300 yards with iron sights. He did not have range finders or whatnot. Just experience with his rifle and the ability to judge distance.