Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
.. Imperfect defenses of self-defense are those that don't fully meet the standard for a perfect claim of self-defense, because the defender didn't come to the situation with completely clean hands, i.e., he was to some degree in the wrong as he appeared on the scene.


Blocking a public road with one's shotgun out with display
of repeated intent to illegally detain the jogger,
where does self-defence by the shooter come into this?

What if a police cruiser had coincidently gone by
and saw the truck and gun toter as described ,how
would they approach it?

I said the self-defense claim is imperfect because the initial approach to a suspected burglar was questionable, legally speaking. But after said approach (and keep in mind that we don't know that a firearm was ever pointed at the victim), the victim of the shooting attempted to grab a loaded firearm from one of the men attempting citizen's arrest. That's an attack against which one ordinarily would possess a right to use lethal force to thwart, since it can be reasonably assumed that a suspected burglar, once he has disarmed you, will use said weapon against you.


What were they arresting him for? The old man was a former cop. If he can’t articulate exactly what legal reason they had to perform their “citizens arrest”, then it’s murder. And seeing him jogging down the street isn’t good enough.

Plenty of y’all have crowed about a citizen legally shooting a cop who was making an illegal arrest or entry. It’s happened and it’s right. So why is this black guy resisting an unlawful arrest wrong?