Never said he was , Ken . Never believed he was which is why I never said he was . Here is how I see the scorecard :

1. Creating CATC and calling it " Top O the Heap ". Open invitation to squabbling AMONG THE BRETHREN complete with chapter and verse wars . You saw it . I learned the term " biblialator from you !

2 Human nature won that round and CATC was moved to the bottom .

3 Nothing changed -human nature being what it is - so he knocked the forum in the head .

4 Now all "religious " threads are going to be moved into the " I believe" thread and posts fall in line chronologically . Ain't gonna work .

" Fish" was as far from a troublemaker as one could get and he was the first casualty . Ricky D and Shootist are good folks - as good as any on here in my opinion - and they are quiet .

I'm bettin' Fish traded up and Rick trades down! Too bad , 'cause I think Rick is a good guy - just over-matched .

Never holler whoa or look back in a tight place