25-20 with 3g of RedDot or 2.8 of W231 going by memory, and a 75grn speer. Or my full steam loads of 10.8 4198 75grn speer, or 11.8grn 4198 and 70grn blitzking. The first two loads sound like rimfire, but the last loads work just fine on rabbits and bigger stuff.
I also load a .223 with RedDot 6-7grns 50grn vmax for 22mag results.
257R 90grn hpbt Sierra 10.5-11grns RedDot duplicate 25-20 load levels. Slow enough that the bullet doesn't deform.
I do like the idea of a cut down Hornet case though. 50-55grn bullets at 1050-1400fps load range.
