Lee, I have thought about laws affecting 223/308, 9/45s, but heck, why will they stop there? Hmmm, anything with a 12x or higher scope, scopes with knobs, heck, I'd reckon they'll stop when owning ammo, components are all banned, anything explosive, inc. caps...let alone CCI's, all guns and glass...heck I hear slingshots are classified as guns/handguns in NJ and NY! Those are .....shooters (not pea ....) btw.

BUT, good point, as I could see a first step in what other countries have done with say 7x57 IIRC.

As to the above debate, heck the shooter WILL be the deciding factor and range estimation and clicking properly will win the day IMHO.

That said, I like the 7 better than 30, JUST because of the gack.

Now one better, I like the 6.5 better than the 7. Why? That's all I need for what I do....

I do say that I recognized long ago, an amax 7/08 is more gun that many might realize......just as a properly loaded 260 or 6.5x55 wink