I didn't read all the numerous pages to this thread so this may have been mentioned, but I like the 120 nosler balistic tips in my 7mm08 for whitetails. This has been an extremely reliable and effective hunting bullet for me having killed 11 deer and never recovered a bullet all pass throughs even shoulder shots at 40 yds. The 7mm08 with the 120s recoil is little more than my .243 win shooting 95 or 100 gr bullets.