what a thread, if i had time i'd read it all, full of LOL'S!

Jeff, WTF are you arguing about? Hornady's #7 manual lists 162's at 2700, a 24" barrel ya, but thats a company keeping thier self covered, law suits a such. so add a grain or so, and some moly, I'm sure 2700 isnt too much of a strech in a 22" tube.