Just talking 'bout the smaller trout, Art. My beloved 8.5 5 wt Winston WT, when into a good fish, bends through the butt to a few inches above the handle. Biggest fish I've caught on that rod was a 24" brown, and it was plenty sporty and damn fun. Not a fan of noodles here either, even for small trout. I still think the best way for Rman to find what he's looking for is to try 'em in the parking lot.

I'd love to head up your way someday and fish for those salmon on a fly rod. What I consider to be heavy tackle down here you'd prolly think of as ultralight grin Gonna give it a go one of these days. Even with my poor work ethic, I don't get enough play days.