I came right after Bigstick left. Since he has came back I see nothing even close to being incorrect. Other than kicking the troll cage from time to time, he seems pretty damn helpful. Even while ratteling the cages he is spouting true and acurrate information. JO You have 20 guys telling you to get a life and use the search function. Then quote it, save it and jam it in your rifle.

Try a case full of Blue Dot, compressed load, mag primer. Jam the bullet tight into the lands.Use some crimp to keep your velocity consistant. Hold on it will be a one shot deal.
(Disclaimer: this load will be excessive in most rifles LOL. Anyone useing data from the internet is a dumbazz and will not have vison or fingers long)

Trying to figure out who is the bigger [bleep], me for reading 90+ pages of this chit or JO for not getting it. BTW IMHO anything bigger than a 7mm 140 should be puked from a 280AI. 7-08 for animals with 4 legs. 308 for animals with 2.