Good to know-- THANKS!! We've been driving Toyotas for the last 15 years or so with great results but my wife doesn't like the looks of the newer RAV's, and several of her coworkers drive and love Subarus. My dad and my sister both bought in with the new-model Outbacks; I think that was 2015 or so? They love them. Today we drove several, but the one we both liked a lot was a 2016 Forester with the Touring package. All the high-tech stuff reminds me of my mom's Lexus's, which I will say spooks me a little in terms of breakage down the road, but that aside I actually thought the Subaru drove better than the Lexus. More road feel, less disconnect, comparably smooth, almost as quiet. Anyway, sorry to hijack, was just hoping someone here had real world experience and I hit the jackpot- thanks again! smile


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