I hear ya. I guess everything comes down to acres available. I have agreements with 7800 acres around me with an understanding on bucks age. I understand that sometimes that it is unfeasable to let a buck walk that you dont think will be there next year. So that being said, sometimes there is no management because you dont have any cooperating neighbors. So management starts at all different ages or sometimes not at all if you are hunting next to uncoperative neighbors who will not agree to the overall "plan". Pease excuse me if I have been out of line, but I have my own little "slice of Heaven" finally and I am trying to establish ground rules for members for generations to come. For better or worse