LMAO. 600 easy to shoot with irons and a sling... Lets see who managed right at MOA in the challenge with irons here..
I dunno but anything with a scope and a rest is sure easier than a sling and irons.(yes I know mini scopes are legal now...)
Whats a nosler range? Never heard of it. We only frequented military and club ranges and the house out the door to 600 over the years. And a fair few years at Camp Perry.
I've made one shot kills on stuff past 600 too. A fair ways past IMHO. And past 500 with irons.
Now betting and talking smack among folks that are supposed to be all on the same side is pretty much BS to me.
The real test is all shooters use the same rifle, thats donated by a non competitor and same ammo. That would be a blast really.
Course what do I know... service rifle shooter from a ways back when it was irons only. 600 is fun. Easy? Not really. If so the top military guys would be cleaning the 600 yard target all day long. I got to the point I could shoot normally a 200 but I had to work hard to get the skill to get there.
but then my classifications were High Master XC and LR and the LR part I'm really proud of. Irons on a service rifle to 1000 ain't easy at all. The NRA 99% club, the 495 club and P100 ain't to bad either.
I've never shot a round with a scope in competition, seems like my wife said that would be too easy but what do I know. I know the targets are smaller but being able to see and read mirage while you are on the gun would be HUGE IMHO. Especially since its usually 22 down range before its over and you have to wait on the targets... though there were some days I'd rather have had a bipod and a scope... lol... but those days taught me a LOT.
About two weeks ago Mr. Edgard, who I believe you know from the old days, and I were discussing the use of scopes in XTC matches.
We agreed that in general it has become easier to shoot better scores, however it has not made it easier to win. The top shooters are top shooters with or without a scope. There is still way more Indian than arrow in XTC.
He did say one of his proudest accomplishments was making high master with iron sights. I have a lot of respect for guys like you and him that are old school HM service rifle shooters.
Glenn. I still see the emails from the gun club. Really great guy! Good shooter. I consider him a good friend.
Scopes do help. They up the scores no doubt at all. But like you and Glenn note, its still the same guys winning. IIRC some rambling when they went from 5V target to decimal that we have today, I think those are correct terms, it was because guns and ammo were getting more accurate. Somewhat the same as the scope deal. But the same folks were winning.
Its like us, didn't take very long to realize the M14 was going to be a dinosaur as the AR came around and bullet tech came way around and we swapped I think around 94-96 or so... It was a smart move as scores kept going up.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
