birddog, just what has been said when it's over it's over end of story. BTDT even if counseling helps,why would you ever trust her again ? Secure your assets, rathole some money, maintain touch and relationship with your kids. With 4 kids if she gets custody the child support will bankrupt you and that is what most women want in divorce,all the money assets and a free ride forever on your back. Protect your self. good luck, I don't see myself ever marrying again. Our society is broken and you are a victum of it. Magnum Man
