Originally Posted by RayF
Originally Posted by DBT
The benefits to not killing wontonly are that you yourself and your family are safer if your society adopts this standard. The same for stealing, social manners, etc, everyone benefits. We don't need religion to tell us that.

Secular societies now are doing better than theocracies ever did.

And yet, as we me make our transition from one nation under God to that of leftist secular enlightenment, the corruption, violence, general disrespect of fellow citizens and destruction of our society escalates.




Atheism is neither leftist or rightist. Hitler was a Catholic. Ivan the terrible spent his mornings in the Chapel and his afternoons dismembering and flaying victims in his dungeon. People act the way they do for a host of reasons. A right winger can be an atheist or a theist. A Left winger can be a theist or an atheist. In principle atheism has nothing to with politics, so any relationship is incidental....a right wing government can be secular or theistic, as with the left.