Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
If two people of reasonable intelligence read the same book of facts (ie non-fiction) and they aren't getting the same facts, something is wrong with that book. Your talking about fiction.
So if two people read the same history book about the American Civil War, and one is a southerner and the other is a yankee...but they’re ‘both’ Americans...then if they aren’t both drawing the exact same conclusions from that book - then something is wrong with the book...?
If there's disputes over the facts either the book is wrong, or the readers are wrong or biased and not willing to accept the facts. So, yes there are errors somewhere in the process. Your logic comparison with faith is saying to read whatever facts you choose to believe. Not a rational stance, but the crux of how believers seem to work.
Or it could simply be that different people see things differently. Different people feel things differently. Different people experience things differently...even when it’s the ‘same’ experience. People think about things differently. To say that that’s “not a rational stance” is your opinion.


You're saying then that facts are irrelevant, and only perceptions are important. I kinda think that we got to where we are technology wise due to observance and development of facts (ie science) - just remember that you benefit from a legacy of prior fact concurring understanding and development. Are you a hippy by chance?

Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by Raspy
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.

That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

Well?