Originally Posted by Savage_Hunter
Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by Savage_Hunter
Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by Savage_Hunter

Gen 1:9-13 9 Then God said, “Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. 10 God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas; and God saw that it was good. 11 Then God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them”; and it was so. 12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good. 13 There was evening and there was morning, a third day.

So, in a 24 hr stretch of time.....
1. God caused dry land to appear.
2. God caused plants to grow (actually sprout from the earth, so it began as a seed...... not a mature plant)
3. The seed sprouted and grew to maturity.
4. The mature plants produced new seeds and/or fruits.
5. Multiple generations grew and covered the earth.

All of that in 24 hours?


If you understood Infinite Intelligent Energy you would not ask such a limited question. This sure does not leave room for water life to produce land life. There is no compatibility with evolution and Genesis One.

1. first off, I dropped out of this thread because of some health issues (2 surgeries and 3 trips to the ER) so you can shut your smug mouth......brother.
2. My firm belief is that the Word of God is infallible and I preach from God's Infallible Word 3 times each week. So, you are wrong again. But I do hold greatly that your inflated ego is very fallible.
3. I'm not a macroevolutionist, so you are wrong again.
4. I have a Master of Divinity Degree, so I don't have to depend on the KJV Bible that has quite a few unfortunate issues ( 1 they addressed 1 yr after the original printing). None of these issues, however, affect the message of the gospel; there are, though, some bad translation issues in it because they mostly translated from Latin, which would make it a translation from a translation instead of mostly relying on the original Aramaic, Koine Greek, and Hebrew. They also translated often from classical Greek instead of Koine quite a few times. And, they inserted names of fairytale animals that never existed because they did not understand the Greek word for the animal in the Hebrew.
5. If I were a Hebrew, in particular if I was a very educated man named Moses, from roughly 3400-3500 years ago, I would write it in Hebrew just as it appears in the Hebrew language Bible if I wanted to express long "days". Look it up. It is readily available online.
6. You still haven't answered, as far as I know, how all that happened in one day. Not to mention how, in 1 day, Adam was created and enjoyed fellowship with God, had time to observe and name all the animals on the earth, found time to become lonely, had time to have surgery and recover from surgery in order for Eve to be fashioned by God from His rib.........and time to sleep that night. Basically, all that happened in about 12-16 hours? (at least 8 he was asleep).
Or, how all the animals sprang from the earth and reproduced after their own kind multiple times in 24 hours..........I know of no mammal with a gestation period of 6 hours.
* I don't think you believe that the wording of Genesis 1 is literal. Only the couple of words that you want to be your version of literal.

7. And, again, with your answer you presume to accuse me, a very conservative Baptist preacher of being an evolutionist by staw manning me the argument "leaving no room for water life to produce land life. There is no compatibility with evolution and Genesis One." I AM NOT AN EVOLUTIONIST!!!!!! I DO NOT BELIEVE IN MACROEVOLUTION!!!!!!

8. I believe in the literal infallible Word of God. I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.


Sorry about your ailments. Adam sinned and God cursed the entire universe.
You continue to display a lack of beleif in Infinte. In Psalms we read (I paraphrase), "God spoke and it stood..." I am sorry to hear you have a Master of Divinity Degree. What I have seen in every case except one is arrogance and rejection of God's Infiniteness. To answer your question #6 see "God spoke..." Many times in Genesis 1 He says, "And God said.... and it was..." God does not need time, we do. You add to God's Word when you posted Adam became lonely. God's Word actually says, "Then the LORD God said, 'It is not good for the man to be alone..."

How long does it take Infinite to put His creature to sleep? How long does it take Infinte to take a rib from him and heal him? (See Jesus' miracles.) How long does it take Infinite to create the woman from that rib? The answer....drum roll.... quicker than I typed this.

Adam didn't have to name all the animal that are available today. He named the original created kinds.

And unlike you, I believe the Words in Gensis are to be understood as communicating literal historical events in regular solar days established in Genesis 1:14.


You are such a strawman telling me (falsely) what I believe. I believe the Bible is the Inspired and innerrent Word of God and it is communicating literal historical events. I can't help it if you don't understand that "yom" in Hebrew does not necessarily mean 24 hours. I can't help it that your wrong assertion of the Hebrew words translated as morning and evening could also mean beginning of one time period and ending of another time period.
You believe what you believe and that is fine, but only a jerk would continue to wrongly state things that I neither believe nor have I stated as though I do/have.

On these days, I'm Not talking about how long it takes God......\

How long did it take Adam to observe and name all of the animals? If he took 2 minutes to observe each one and then give them a descriptive name? how many animals, birds, reptiles, insects at 2 minutes each? how long would that take?

Your smugness about me displaying a lack of belief in Infinite is so misplaced just because I don't hold the same (wrong) viewpoint you possess.
Your automatic assumption that a Master of Divinity Degree produces arrogance and rejection of God's Infiniteness merely shows your ignorance. You talk a lot but understand not for that which you speak.
God's Word told me to study to show myself approved, so I went to Seminary. Are you suggesting that I should come sit on your couch and learn from you, the Master? How much Hebrew can you teach me?
And, for your information, I went to a conservative school and my professors were conservative and my pastor is/was conservative. In fact, my pastor was a young earther and chided me for my beliefs. We had to agree to disagree when I showed him all the times his "24 hour day" term was used in the Bible to mean longer time periods and the times mornings and evenings were translated different.
My "old earth" views come from studying Scripture and original languages, not from someone force feeding me or from my own preconcieved notions.

You are the one adding to the Bible. Nowhere in Scripture does it say that God created the earth "to appear old". Nowhere does it say He sped up the seed/plant growth cycle, the gestation cycle of animals, etc to fit your interpretation of how all of those things happened in a 24 hour day. This is your explanation and it is not supported by verse. But why would God use a ruse to fool us anyway?

Do a little research and word study of the word "yom" in the Bible and see how many times it means something other than 24 hours.


Do you believe God wrote The Ten Commandments? What does He mean in six days He made everything?

"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation."
Everyday Hunter