Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by WhiteTail48


“And these shall go away into everlasting punishment; but the righteous into life eternal.” Matthew 25:46


God destroys the wicked with Death as final punishment.. [ as in dead for eternity]...OK,
so where does eternal torment in flames fit in..?

You kill someone then torture /torment them
forever after that.. 🤔


Originally Posted by WhiteTail48


“Hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched.” Mark 9:43

“Where the worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.” Mark 9:44

Hellfire is mentioned in Mark 9:47



The O.T. does not describe hell/hades as being
flame filled eternal torment, so I take it to
be a N.T. christian cult ploy /construct to
frighten people into believing.

or did God give hell a total make over?





It seems that Christian doctrine is not compatible with Judaism.


That's what Marcion thought. He didn't see how it was possible the God of the OT and NT were the same God.



Marcion was in error, as are those who are of the mind that the God of the OT is not the God of the NT. These folks may not fully understand dispensations, the Law and the New Covenant.

Some folks even get confused with Jesus’ teachings on the law..... his teachings on the law were..... Before..... the sacrifice on the cross and the before the New Covenant.

All this info is readily available to one who desires to understand.


The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”