Originally Posted by jaguartx
Unbelievers dont understand why believers dont seek scientific proof as they want.

It's a tenant of Faith, the hingepin of belief and would defy GODS instruction.

Also, if there were proof of Heaven and God, unbelievers would believe and there would be no need for the lake of fire. No unbelievers thrown in the lake of fire would make God a liar.

HE gave us free will to choose. If there was proof, people would believe by evidence and not the free will to choose.

It would be as if HE had coerced them.

Who wants to be in Heaven with those who were coerced or forced to be there.

It would be like the US where those born here get the benefits that essentially are a coercive force to be here. Not good.


B.S argument. According to mainline Christians Beliefs Lucifer knew with absolute certainty that God and Heaven were real, but still exercised his free will against God.

And God sure didn't care about Pharaoh's free will, intentionally hardening his heart to create an excuse for Gods murder of innocent children.

Last edited by antelope_sniper; 06/22/20.
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