Originally Posted by Ringman
If evolution is true and the Bible is not, then there was no fall in the Garden of Eden so there is no need for Jesus the Savior.
Originally Posted by antlers
That tactic is no different than saying “either you believe in a literal interpretation of the entire Bible, or you don’t believe in any of the Bible”. It’s a dishonest tactic to try and force people to believe things that are clearly not true...such as Noah and the Ark, and Jonah and the great fish. Using such a dishonest tactic does a tremendous disservice to the faith of Christianity, and it pushes people away from Jesus. Denying scientific knowledge because it threatens one’s faith shows a real weakness in one’s faith. Some of the stuff in the Bible is clearly allegorical...some people realize that, and some don’t.
Originally Posted by Ringman
You actually believe "Noah and the Ark, and Jonah and the great fish" are not true? How about a virgin birth? That's not verified by any scientific study. How about Jesus rising from the dead? That's not verified by any scientific study. Do you believe Jesus actually ascended into Heaven while the disciples looked on? That's not documented by any scientific study. Just how do you decide what to believe?
Originally Posted by antlers
Discernment. God gives us the power of discernment and wisdom...generously...if we ask for it. Again, some of the stuff in the Bible is clearly allegorical...some people realize that, and some don’t. One’s salvation does not depend on believing the tale of Noah and the Ark, nor does one’s salvation depend on believing the tale of Jonah and the great fish. Nor does one’s salvation depend on believing the literal interpretation of the biblical story of creation. But one’s salvation DOES depend on believing in Jesus’ Resurrection, and seizing the opportunity to have a relationship with a loving God who sent His son to reveal just how good He is, and accepting His gift of grace.
Originally Posted by Ringman
Believing Bible stories does not push anyone away from God.
Demanding that people believe in a literal interpretation of the entire Bible, and demanding that they believe things that are clearly not true...and telling them that their salvation is null and void if they don’t...certainly DOES push people away from Jesus.


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