Originally Posted by RWE
So you are saying unless I can provide a physical fact to justify faith, its dishonest?


I just said "evidence", I did not specify the nature of the evidence. However, if your evidence is not something that manifests in the material world, that makes it really had to test and verify.

So let me ask you, do you think this is an "honest position":

I am going to tell you why someone happens the way it does. Now I have no evidence for this, and the evidence that does exist indicates I am wrong, but I'm going to choose to believe this anyway because, (I was indoctrinated to believe this as a kid, because it makes me feel good, because my preacher says so, because some bronze age goat herders say so, etc.....)

If that really an honest position?


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell