An honest man needs nor is defined by religion or not; he is simply honest regardless of faith or lack thereof.
Sean,
Let me skip ahead to reply to your post.
The question wasn't about general honesty..it was about honesty regarding faith vis-a-vis the facts.
In fact, you make a good point against many Christian claims that morality and ethics cannot exist apart from their version of religion/God.
Faith needs not facts, and facts need not faith. They are not mutually exclusive, nor are they mutually required. An honest person is honest; one that is not, will not be regardless of faith or the lack thereof.
For example: one of the most honest, caring, trustworthy individuals I've ever known is Buddhist (if anything at all). You could not beat a lie out of this person, and there's not a soul that knows him that doesn't take his word as true. Contrast that with a professed "christian" many times over that many know here that has made a life's work of conning, cheating, swindeling, and otherwise dishonest dealing in spite of the "profession" of faith that still fools a few.
The faith(s) or lack thereof between the two has nothing to do with the honest of the person; they are honest or they are not. Their "faith" or lack thereof is simply a disguise/mask, or an excuse, or not.
Last edited by 4ager; 08/27/15.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
